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India :
The persistence of hunger and abject poverty in India and other parts of the world is due in large measure to the subjugation, marginalization and dis-empowerment of women. Women suffer from hunger and poverty in greater numbers and to a great degree then men. At the same time, it is women who bear the primary responsibility for actions needed to end hunger: education, nutrition, health and family income.
Looking through the lens of hunger and poverty, there are seven major areas of discrimination against women in India:
Malnutrition: India has exceptionally high rates of child malnutrition, because tradition in India requires that women eat last and least throughout their lives, even when pregnant and lactating. Malnourished women give birth to malnourished children, perpetuating the cycle.
Poor Health: Females receive less health care than males. Many women die in childbirth of easily prevented complications. Working conditions and environmental pollution further impairs women’s health.
Lack of education: Families are far less likely to educate girls than boys, and far more likely to pull them out of school, either to help out at home or from fear of violence.
Overwork: Women work longer hours and their work is more arduous than men’s, yet their work is unrecognized. Men report that “women, like children, eat and do nothing.” Technological progress in agriculture has had a negative impact on women.
Unskilled: In women’s primary employment sector - agriculture - extension services overlook women.
Mistreatment: In recent years, there has been an alarming rise in atrocities against women in India, in terms of rapes, assaults and dowry-related murders. Fear of violence suppresses the aspirations of all women. Female infanticide and sex-selective abortions are additional forms of violence that reflect the devaluing of females in Indian society.
Powerlessness: While women are guaranteed equality under the constitution, legal protection has little effect in the face of prevailing patriarchal traditions. Women lack power to decide who they will marry, and are often married off as children. Legal loopholes are used to deny women inheritance rights.
India has a long history of activism for women’s welfare and rights, which has increasingly focused on women’s economic rights. A range of government programs have been launched to increase economic opportunity for women, although there appear to be no existing programs to address the cultural and traditional discrimination against women that leads to her abject conditions.
These are truths that Rohan, Pune and Vive can’t admit and many more with twisted wrong impressions
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Thanks for the wonderful post Wayne!
These are the hard facts of India which generally Indians try to ignore.
I saw your comment being marked down....maybe for the same reason.
Sometimes mirror scares you...that is what happens with some people after reading such articles. They have defined their limits and are not ready to think beyond that neither are ready to accept change.
India has a long way to go before women(both rural and urban) get the respect they deserve.
Urban women have different set of problems. Because they are educated, they are expected to work full time apart from cooking, cleaning, taking care of the children along with their home works etc. Believe me it is too much for any human body. But every women doesn’t have courage to raise her voice.
Husbands do share the responsibilities but most of the working women are not lucky enough...
These are the hard facts of India which generally Indians try to ignore.
I saw your comment being marked down....maybe for the same reason.
Sometimes mirror scares you...that is what happens with some people after reading such articles. They have defined their limits and are not ready to think beyond that neither are ready to accept change.
India has a long way to go before women(both rural and urban) get the respect they deserve.
Urban women have different set of problems. Because they are educated, they are expected to work full time apart from cooking, cleaning, taking care of the children along with their home works etc. Believe me it is too much for any human body. But every women doesn’t have courage to raise her voice.
Husbands do share the responsibilities but most of the working women are not lucky enough...
(Local Perspectives)
Sanwali
Thanks for your peply
It is funny there is just two in our species (male and female) and we can’t seem to do a very good job in respecting each others differences
It makes me feel bad to see the overpowering controll over woman by man and them blind to it
It is hard to believe they could forget their nurturing days and then become so disrespectful to the same people that gave them life
Thanks for your peply
It is funny there is just two in our species (male and female) and we can’t seem to do a very good job in respecting each others differences
It makes me feel bad to see the overpowering controll over woman by man and them blind to it
It is hard to believe they could forget their nurturing days and then become so disrespectful to the same people that gave them life
(Global Perspectives)
hi....
All of the above very true and if at all the Woman protests and puts her feet down or wants to be herself...u have a hue and cry...
It is a pity that even though we venerate the Lady as mothers and Goddesses....
In fact in Urban India there is at least an awareness and assertiveness...But in the Rural parts...The woman just cannot fight ....what with the typical mind sets of even authorities....forget the society and individuals...
We may commend ourselves for all the laws....but where is the implementation..Look at where the Womans Bill in Parliment has gone after all these years....
It is a fact that Men deep down just cannot accept the women as equals...irrespective of what may be said...
All of the above very true and if at all the Woman protests and puts her feet down or wants to be herself...u have a hue and cry...
It is a pity that even though we venerate the Lady as mothers and Goddesses....
In fact in Urban India there is at least an awareness and assertiveness...But in the Rural parts...The woman just cannot fight ....what with the typical mind sets of even authorities....forget the society and individuals...
We may commend ourselves for all the laws....but where is the implementation..Look at where the Womans Bill in Parliment has gone after all these years....
It is a fact that Men deep down just cannot accept the women as equals...irrespective of what may be said...
(Local Perspectives)
@Sanwali,
”India has a long way to go before women(both rural and urban) get the respect they deserve.”
That’s a complete half-truth and an exaggerated one. The men’s perspective is not even recognised.
”Urban women have different set of problems. Because they are educated, they are expected to work full time apart from cooking, cleaning, taking care of the children along with their home works etc. Believe me it is too much for any human body. But every women doesn’t have courage to raise her voice.”
Not all cases. I can show you lakhs of women in urban areas who are housewives. Their husbands earn and they are full time homemakers.
”India has a long way to go before women(both rural and urban) get the respect they deserve.”
That’s a complete half-truth and an exaggerated one. The men’s perspective is not even recognised.
”Urban women have different set of problems. Because they are educated, they are expected to work full time apart from cooking, cleaning, taking care of the children along with their home works etc. Believe me it is too much for any human body. But every women doesn’t have courage to raise her voice.”
Not all cases. I can show you lakhs of women in urban areas who are housewives. Their husbands earn and they are full time homemakers.
(Local Perspectives)
Dear Rohan, No offence! I’ll try to answer back in the most humble way possible and hope you’ll get my point. This will be my 1st and the last reply to you because I don’t have time and energy to get involved in a thread of 200 plus comments…
What I have observed from your comments of different posts is that you or someone close to you in the family/friends, have become a victim to the feminists. See the basic idea behind feminism is to let women have the rights that they are deprived off from centuries by some chauvinistic males. It is not at all to abuse men in any way…but you must have heard about “there is always an exception”.
When the feminists says, “all men are bastards”, there are people including women (like me), who’ll say that there are exceptions. Similar is the case in women. Not all women are suffering…some are leading a very happy and contented life with their families. Amongst feminists or non- feminists, there are women who are corrupt and cheat their own family for many reasons. It can be money, affairs or even a dominating behavior.
Anyone who is weak will fall victim to such people. In case woman is weak, she’ll suppress and vice versa. But trying to suppress other gender will never solve the issue. Both the genders need to understand that every human being deserves respect. The day ‘dominating gender’ will understand this, problem will be solved. And this is not impossible. It can be done if we teach our children to respect every human being, be it male or female. On the other hand, we also need to learn that we will stand and fight against any oppression of the opposite sex. And it applies to both male and female gender.
This article is neither biased nor against males. It is just showing the pathetic condition of women in the rural areas, which is true and you know that. Similarly women in urban areas have their own problems as I stated earlier. Again women who are cheating are the exceptions. Please try to focus on the basic agenda, rather than highlighting the exceptions. As far as the sufferings of men are concerned, that is another issue which can be mentioned in another post and discussed there.
I have tried really hard to not to hurt your sentiments in any way. Still if I did, please accept my apologies in advance :)
In short we should follow the principle of Live and Let Live. Cheers and God Bless!
What I have observed from your comments of different posts is that you or someone close to you in the family/friends, have become a victim to the feminists. See the basic idea behind feminism is to let women have the rights that they are deprived off from centuries by some chauvinistic males. It is not at all to abuse men in any way…but you must have heard about “there is always an exception”.
When the feminists says, “all men are bastards”, there are people including women (like me), who’ll say that there are exceptions. Similar is the case in women. Not all women are suffering…some are leading a very happy and contented life with their families. Amongst feminists or non- feminists, there are women who are corrupt and cheat their own family for many reasons. It can be money, affairs or even a dominating behavior.
Anyone who is weak will fall victim to such people. In case woman is weak, she’ll suppress and vice versa. But trying to suppress other gender will never solve the issue. Both the genders need to understand that every human being deserves respect. The day ‘dominating gender’ will understand this, problem will be solved. And this is not impossible. It can be done if we teach our children to respect every human being, be it male or female. On the other hand, we also need to learn that we will stand and fight against any oppression of the opposite sex. And it applies to both male and female gender.
This article is neither biased nor against males. It is just showing the pathetic condition of women in the rural areas, which is true and you know that. Similarly women in urban areas have their own problems as I stated earlier. Again women who are cheating are the exceptions. Please try to focus on the basic agenda, rather than highlighting the exceptions. As far as the sufferings of men are concerned, that is another issue which can be mentioned in another post and discussed there.
I have tried really hard to not to hurt your sentiments in any way. Still if I did, please accept my apologies in advance :)
In short we should follow the principle of Live and Let Live. Cheers and God Bless!
(Local Perspectives)
@Sanwali,
”See the basic idea behind feminism is to let women have the rights that they are deprived off from centuries by some chauvinistic males. It is not at all to abuse men in any way…but you must have heard about “there is always an exception”.
Feminism has grown from a small movement of genuine people to a large movement of anti-male, anti-family people. It is no longer about women’s genuine rights. Its about women’s rights without responsibilities. It is about anti-male sentiments and misandry. I have seen how many many men are suffering due to feminism. If feminism was all that wonderful creation, why should there be sufferings at all? Obviously, something is wrong with it. Read the book, ”Who stole feminism”. It is written by a woman, I think a feminist lady herself.
”When the feminists says, “all men are bastards”, there are people including women (like me), who’ll say that there are exceptions.”
Are you saying that all men are bastards with some exceptions? Clarify on this. I get the feeling that you are anti-male.
”Similar is the case in women. Not all women are suffering…some are leading a very happy and contented life with their families. Amongst feminists or non- feminists, there are women who are corrupt and cheat their own family for many reasons. It can be money, affairs or even a dominating behavior.”
I agree with this. But feminism thinks otherwise. It believes that the testosterone hormone causes all problems in the world and is the root of all evil. This is the era of female victimhood and Wayne illogical has posted another of those billions of articles to promote and market the female victimhood theory so that feminazis can mint money.
”Anyone who is weak will fall victim to such people. In case woman is weak, she’ll suppress and vice versa. But trying to suppress other gender will never solve the issue. Both the genders need to understand that every human being deserves respect. The day ‘dominating gender’ will understand this, problem will be solved. And this is not impossible. It can be done if we teach our children to respect every human being, be it male or female. On the other hand, we also need to learn that we will stand and fight against any oppression of the opposite sex. And it applies to both male and female gender.”
I agree with this 100%. But none of the feminists and women’s groups want this to happen because their bread and butter is dependent on women’s oppression and female victimhood is the product that they are selling to make money.
”This article is neither biased nor against males. It is just showing the pathetic condition of women in the rural areas, which is true and you know that. Similarly women in urban areas have their own problems as I stated earlier. Again women who are cheating are the exceptions. Please try to focus on the basic agenda, rather than highlighting the exceptions. As far as the sufferings of men are concerned, that is another issue which can be mentioned in another post and discussed there.”
I am not against this article per se. I am against the over-emphasis of the problems of women vis-a-vis the problems of men. Rural women suffer. I agree with you. Rural men also suffer. But nobody wants to show that aspect. Further, rural women’s pathetic condition [I agree with the essence of this article] is misused by urban women to push for more and more anti-male laws and agenda. We should STOP this marketing of female victimhood and promote humanism. With more and more articles and news about female victimhood, the society is outraged and guys like me are seeing the outcome in the form of discrimination of men, misandry and androphobia.
”See the basic idea behind feminism is to let women have the rights that they are deprived off from centuries by some chauvinistic males. It is not at all to abuse men in any way…but you must have heard about “there is always an exception”.
Feminism has grown from a small movement of genuine people to a large movement of anti-male, anti-family people. It is no longer about women’s genuine rights. Its about women’s rights without responsibilities. It is about anti-male sentiments and misandry. I have seen how many many men are suffering due to feminism. If feminism was all that wonderful creation, why should there be sufferings at all? Obviously, something is wrong with it. Read the book, ”Who stole feminism”. It is written by a woman, I think a feminist lady herself.
”When the feminists says, “all men are bastards”, there are people including women (like me), who’ll say that there are exceptions.”
Are you saying that all men are bastards with some exceptions? Clarify on this. I get the feeling that you are anti-male.
”Similar is the case in women. Not all women are suffering…some are leading a very happy and contented life with their families. Amongst feminists or non- feminists, there are women who are corrupt and cheat their own family for many reasons. It can be money, affairs or even a dominating behavior.”
I agree with this. But feminism thinks otherwise. It believes that the testosterone hormone causes all problems in the world and is the root of all evil. This is the era of female victimhood and Wayne illogical has posted another of those billions of articles to promote and market the female victimhood theory so that feminazis can mint money.
”Anyone who is weak will fall victim to such people. In case woman is weak, she’ll suppress and vice versa. But trying to suppress other gender will never solve the issue. Both the genders need to understand that every human being deserves respect. The day ‘dominating gender’ will understand this, problem will be solved. And this is not impossible. It can be done if we teach our children to respect every human being, be it male or female. On the other hand, we also need to learn that we will stand and fight against any oppression of the opposite sex. And it applies to both male and female gender.”
I agree with this 100%. But none of the feminists and women’s groups want this to happen because their bread and butter is dependent on women’s oppression and female victimhood is the product that they are selling to make money.
”This article is neither biased nor against males. It is just showing the pathetic condition of women in the rural areas, which is true and you know that. Similarly women in urban areas have their own problems as I stated earlier. Again women who are cheating are the exceptions. Please try to focus on the basic agenda, rather than highlighting the exceptions. As far as the sufferings of men are concerned, that is another issue which can be mentioned in another post and discussed there.”
I am not against this article per se. I am against the over-emphasis of the problems of women vis-a-vis the problems of men. Rural women suffer. I agree with you. Rural men also suffer. But nobody wants to show that aspect. Further, rural women’s pathetic condition [I agree with the essence of this article] is misused by urban women to push for more and more anti-male laws and agenda. We should STOP this marketing of female victimhood and promote humanism. With more and more articles and news about female victimhood, the society is outraged and guys like me are seeing the outcome in the form of discrimination of men, misandry and androphobia.
(Local Perspectives)
@Sanwali,
”See the basic idea behind feminism is to let women have the rights that they are deprived off from centuries by some chauvinistic males.”
I guess the time has come to start masculism as an answer to feminism to let men have the same rights as women and to save the men from the clutches of feminazis who are the new-age Talibans.
”See the basic idea behind feminism is to let women have the rights that they are deprived off from centuries by some chauvinistic males.”
I guess the time has come to start masculism as an answer to feminism to let men have the same rights as women and to save the men from the clutches of feminazis who are the new-age Talibans.
(Local Perspectives)
@Hariharan,
”It is a fact that Men deep down just cannot accept the women as equals...irrespective of what may be said...”
Nor can women accept men as their equals. They want the benefits of tradition in this modern world and want men to protect them, sympathise and empathise with them, want the laws to be in their favour, want men to provide for them, want moral superiority over men and yet claim equality.
”It is a fact that Men deep down just cannot accept the women as equals...irrespective of what may be said...”
Nor can women accept men as their equals. They want the benefits of tradition in this modern world and want men to protect them, sympathise and empathise with them, want the laws to be in their favour, want men to provide for them, want moral superiority over men and yet claim equality.
(Local Perspectives)
India superpower of poverty, hunger and many many problems.........
(Local Perspectives)
Monjib
Don’t be too pessimistic -India has a lot of good qualities as well and other countries could learn from India
Don’t be too pessimistic -India has a lot of good qualities as well and other countries could learn from India
(Global Perspectives)
Don’t take such a pessimistic view of India. It has been improving in a lot of fields in the past decade. This will also improve. Our part is to bring notice to this. And once this gains national focus, i’m sure this will improve as well.
(Local Perspectives)
Nice reading this article. All that you have said pertaining to rural women are true. This however does not mean their urban counterparts are better off in any way. In India, urban women face harassment at workplace from their male colleagues and bossess. Their work is never rewarded in the same way as that of their male counterparts. Very few husbands lift a finger to help in the homefront. Even in educated and emancipated urban homes the birth of a son is always welcome than that of a daughter.
(Local Perspectives)
Usha
I realize it is the mentality of men in general and will be difficult for woman no mater where men want to raise their ugly heads
Thanks and hope things get better soon
I realize it is the mentality of men in general and will be difficult for woman no mater where men want to raise their ugly heads
Thanks and hope things get better soon
(Global Perspectives)
@Usha,
Absolutely one-sided and spreading the gender war. I can show you millions of cases where this is not true at all. Women misuse the gender laws. Feminism is an evil that has influenced women to wage a war against men for perceived discrimination. The men’s perspective is never even recognised.
Absolutely one-sided and spreading the gender war. I can show you millions of cases where this is not true at all. Women misuse the gender laws. Feminism is an evil that has influenced women to wage a war against men for perceived discrimination. The men’s perspective is never even recognised.
(Local Perspectives)
Take heart Usha it will get better it just takes time. Every generation it gets better. In rural Mississippi the story was much the same, my great-grandmother had a harder time than my grandmother and my mother had more hardships than I did and now my daughter has very few. Of course we no longer live in a rural area and we are well educated and we both have husbands that are not scared to wash a dish or change a diaper when needed. It seems that each generation of men became more loving and kind and more interested in the day to day lives of their children. When I was teaching I saw almost as many fathers as mothers in carpool, at plays, at parent conferences, and it was more often the fathers writing on the homework assignments. There were never any dads at school functions when I was a kid. And back then there were almost no single parent homes.
(Global Perspectives)
@Nuya,
You can live in your own fool’s paradise. Each passing year and each passing generation, the men are realising that they are getting fooled by feminism. Men’s rights in India and in many other nations has taken birth which was hitherto not existing. In India, from nowhere, men’s groups have spread awareness of their existence. These are small beginnings. The wheel of time moves on. More and more men would feel let down. Its happening; Its REAL. Feminazis have to grow up and get over the evolution syndrome wherein they believe that as time moves on, things improve. The answer is Yes and No. In many ways, human beings have transcended animals big time. We are heading towards a more and more complicated life and the earth is in much more danger than ever before. Families are collapsing and gender war has started.
You can live in your own fool’s paradise. Each passing year and each passing generation, the men are realising that they are getting fooled by feminism. Men’s rights in India and in many other nations has taken birth which was hitherto not existing. In India, from nowhere, men’s groups have spread awareness of their existence. These are small beginnings. The wheel of time moves on. More and more men would feel let down. Its happening; Its REAL. Feminazis have to grow up and get over the evolution syndrome wherein they believe that as time moves on, things improve. The answer is Yes and No. In many ways, human beings have transcended animals big time. We are heading towards a more and more complicated life and the earth is in much more danger than ever before. Families are collapsing and gender war has started.
(Local Perspectives)
Usha,
If you women and feminists don’t stop this bullshit of creating an atmosphere of misandry, androphobia and portraying men as bad and women as victims, we men will definately organise and fight back!!! So be careful. Think of what is in store for you once a large section of men get affected by feminazism.
If you women and feminists don’t stop this bullshit of creating an atmosphere of misandry, androphobia and portraying men as bad and women as victims, we men will definately organise and fight back!!! So be careful. Think of what is in store for you once a large section of men get affected by feminazism.
(Local Perspectives)
Rohand just because you don’t want to wash dishes, fold clothes, change your baby’s diapers, drive your kids to school, doesn’t mean that other men don’t want to do it. Men taking part in their children’s lives instead of working their 8 hours and then sitting on their ass the rest of the day is a good thing for the children. Just being there is not enough.
(Global Perspectives)
@Nuya,
Your narrow mind cannot understand anything more than what you said. Men have absolutely no problem doing that. In ancient times, because there were no machines, men were exhausted after work. Today, the exhaustion is of a different nature, though. The problem is that you feminazis don’t want to pay the price of equality. START PAYING THE PRICE OF EQUALITY. IF YOU EXPECT GUYS TO DO ALL THAT, START PAYING MAINTENANCE AND ALIMONY TO THEM....DON’T EXPECT GUYS TO GIVE YOU MONEY. MARRY UNEMPLOYED MEN. DO ALL THAT WHICH GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
Your narrow mind cannot understand anything more than what you said. Men have absolutely no problem doing that. In ancient times, because there were no machines, men were exhausted after work. Today, the exhaustion is of a different nature, though. The problem is that you feminazis don’t want to pay the price of equality. START PAYING THE PRICE OF EQUALITY. IF YOU EXPECT GUYS TO DO ALL THAT, START PAYING MAINTENANCE AND ALIMONY TO THEM....DON’T EXPECT GUYS TO GIVE YOU MONEY. MARRY UNEMPLOYED MEN. DO ALL THAT WHICH GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
(Local Perspectives)
Very well said...
All of the above very true and if at all the Woman protests and puts her feet down or wants to be herself...u have a hue and cry...
It is a pity that even though we venerate the Lady as mothers and Goddesses....
In fact in Urban India there is at least an awareness and assertiveness...But in the Rural parts...The woman just cannot fight ....what with the typical mind sets of even authorities....forget the society and individuals...
We may commend ourselves for all the laws....but where is the implementation..Look at where the Womans Bill in Parliment has gone after all these years....
It is a fact that Men deep down just cannot accept the women as equals...irrespective of what may be said...
All of the above very true and if at all the Woman protests and puts her feet down or wants to be herself...u have a hue and cry...
It is a pity that even though we venerate the Lady as mothers and Goddesses....
In fact in Urban India there is at least an awareness and assertiveness...But in the Rural parts...The woman just cannot fight ....what with the typical mind sets of even authorities....forget the society and individuals...
We may commend ourselves for all the laws....but where is the implementation..Look at where the Womans Bill in Parliment has gone after all these years....
It is a fact that Men deep down just cannot accept the women as equals...irrespective of what may be said...
(Local Perspectives)
Hariharan
Well said- but sad to think change has to be so difficult and slow
I don’t know how a man -if they love their partner COULD put a bigger part of the burden of everyday life on the woman and not love their genes male or female equality
We sure went adrift over the centuries
Well said- but sad to think change has to be so difficult and slow
I don’t know how a man -if they love their partner COULD put a bigger part of the burden of everyday life on the woman and not love their genes male or female equality
We sure went adrift over the centuries
(Global Perspectives)
The truth is that women want the advantages of tradition and modernity. The truth is that women want men to be hen-pecked. The best example is the demand for equality and reservation demand in parliament as though women are prohibited to contest elections and win. We had a woman PM for 15 years and now Sonia is the defacto PM. The women’s rights movement is the biggest fraud of this century! It blames men to divert the attention from its own fraud. While educated women talk about equality, they are not ready to let go off any of the advantages that they get from tradition. Take the example of alimony and maintenance. I know several cases where educated women earning more than their husbands has claimed alimony and maintenance from their husbands. This is called equality. Shame, shame!
(Local Perspectives)
Hi Wayne,
accurately written article. Very apt and very true. In this situation, I do not see ”India Shining”.
pathetic situations that women face.
accurately written article. Very apt and very true. In this situation, I do not see ”India Shining”.
pathetic situations that women face.
(Local Perspectives)
men also face pathetic situation. Just because society is insensitive to them does not mean that men are not oppressed.
(Local Perspectives)
Chitraparna
Thanks- and my only point of writing this is to show some of the stubborn men that all is not good with woman issues in India
Men are used to pushing their power on the weak and have a hard time giving up a little of their control
Thanks- and my only point of writing this is to show some of the stubborn men that all is not good with woman issues in India
Men are used to pushing their power on the weak and have a hard time giving up a little of their control
(Global Perspectives)
Yes, Wayne, I agree. You made a very good attempt. I hope the stubborn men get to read this.
(Local Perspectives)
Chronic Hunger and the Status of Women in India - Carol S. Coonrod, June 1998
(Global Perspectives)
Wonda,
we men will not allow dirty feminazism at any cost. if you call that ”pushing power”, you can do so. we are not eunuchs as western men are.
we men will not allow dirty feminazism at any cost. if you call that ”pushing power”, you can do so. we are not eunuchs as western men are.
(Local Perspectives)
Fisher,
the time for writing a book on status of man has come. Oppressing men and suppressing their problems is going to back fire some day for feminists.
the time for writing a book on status of man has come. Oppressing men and suppressing their problems is going to back fire some day for feminists.
(Local Perspectives)
MITA- Thanks
Some stubborn men have read it and marked it down in their quest to pretend it doesn’t happen
I am afraid that in India equality for woman by man is still a long way off
Being a male i find love and respect for woman comes naturally and how could i look into the face of my daughter, mother, or wife and find them lesser than me–i would suffer a thousand deaths before i would hurt or disrespect another human being
Some stubborn men have read it and marked it down in their quest to pretend it doesn’t happen
I am afraid that in India equality for woman by man is still a long way off
Being a male i find love and respect for woman comes naturally and how could i look into the face of my daughter, mother, or wife and find them lesser than me–i would suffer a thousand deaths before i would hurt or disrespect another human being
(Global Perspectives)
Thanks for nice thoughts Wayne. Whatever you said goes for women too. What
would we do without men? I would hate the world which had only women. :)
(Local Perspectives)
Even when there are so many things happening around and the things are going from worse to worst - in Security, eve teasing, Moral policing...leave it, list is too long to count. Still, as it's the election time you will see the political hypocrisy with the sham data to show that India gained a lot, Particularly the slogan "India shining"...I don't know where? can anybody tell me...
(Local Perspectives)
@Puneet,
Know the other side too. False cases and torture by women.
www.498a.org
www.savefamily.org
www.saveindianfamily.org
www.mynation.net
Know the other side too. False cases and torture by women.
www.498a.org
www.savefamily.org
www.saveindianfamily.org
www.mynation.net
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan
When people bump heads over things that they can’t change the only thing that happens is they both get headaches
Lets try this Rohan –if you need help my hand is out to you ,or any man
If a woman had a hand out for help my hand would be out to her as well
If a child male or female had a hand out for help i would reach out to help them as well and isn’t that what you would want from men and woman
In the end i love all humans men and woman as we all should and now that i sent you some love can you send me some
Rohan i know you and Arvind are good souls who think that by bombarding your concerns will change minds but what it does is alienate you and take away from your very bright minds ,love Rohan—Wayne
When people bump heads over things that they can’t change the only thing that happens is they both get headaches
Lets try this Rohan –if you need help my hand is out to you ,or any man
If a woman had a hand out for help my hand would be out to her as well
If a child male or female had a hand out for help i would reach out to help them as well and isn’t that what you would want from men and woman
In the end i love all humans men and woman as we all should and now that i sent you some love can you send me some
Rohan i know you and Arvind are good souls who think that by bombarding your concerns will change minds but what it does is alienate you and take away from your very bright minds ,love Rohan—Wayne
(Global Perspectives)
@Wayne,
”When people bump heads over things that they can’t change the only thing that happens is they both get headaches”
Then why are you posting this article when you know that you really cannot solve all problems of India?
”Rohan –if you need help my hand is out to you ,or any man
If a woman had a hand out for help my hand would be out to her as well
If a child male or female had a hand out for help i would reach out to help them as well and isn’t that what you would want from men and woman”
Yes. So, why are you in denial of discrimination of men? You simply refuse to accept that men are discriminated.
”In the end i love all humans men and woman as we all should and now that i sent you some love can you send me some
Rohan ”
Certainly. But you cannot be fooling yourself with love. Love is fine with people who deserve it.
”i know you and Arvind are good souls who think that by bombarding your concerns will change minds but what it does is alienate you and take away from your very bright minds ,love Rohan—Wayne”
We are here to create awareness. If people take it, it is fine. or else, they learn their lessons the hard way. Its their choice. People who refused to believe us some 2 years back are today agreeing with us after seeing the real sufferings.
”When people bump heads over things that they can’t change the only thing that happens is they both get headaches”
Then why are you posting this article when you know that you really cannot solve all problems of India?
”Rohan –if you need help my hand is out to you ,or any man
If a woman had a hand out for help my hand would be out to her as well
If a child male or female had a hand out for help i would reach out to help them as well and isn’t that what you would want from men and woman”
Yes. So, why are you in denial of discrimination of men? You simply refuse to accept that men are discriminated.
”In the end i love all humans men and woman as we all should and now that i sent you some love can you send me some
Rohan ”
Certainly. But you cannot be fooling yourself with love. Love is fine with people who deserve it.
”i know you and Arvind are good souls who think that by bombarding your concerns will change minds but what it does is alienate you and take away from your very bright minds ,love Rohan—Wayne”
We are here to create awareness. If people take it, it is fine. or else, they learn their lessons the hard way. Its their choice. People who refused to believe us some 2 years back are today agreeing with us after seeing the real sufferings.
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan
I put my right hand out and you cut it off
Now i put my left hand out and hope you won’t cut it off –LOVE –WAYNE
I put my right hand out and you cut it off
Now i put my left hand out and hope you won’t cut it off –LOVE –WAYNE
(Global Perspectives)
@Wayne,
AS long as you don’t preach hatred of men, claim moral superiority of women, sympathise with women more than men, and as long as you understand and recognise the problems of men as being as important as that of women, I have no problems at all.
None of this is happening with you. I have no problems with women’s rights as long as men’s rights are also recognised. This is not happening now. WE are living amidst misandry, androphobia, feminism etc. This is not fair for men.
AS long as you don’t preach hatred of men, claim moral superiority of women, sympathise with women more than men, and as long as you understand and recognise the problems of men as being as important as that of women, I have no problems at all.
None of this is happening with you. I have no problems with women’s rights as long as men’s rights are also recognised. This is not happening now. WE are living amidst misandry, androphobia, feminism etc. This is not fair for men.
(Local Perspectives)
@Chitraparna sinha,
”Rohan, A good idea on masculinism...But i guess it should wait another 2000 years to get started because right now we are in a balancing mode. we women want to give men back what they gave us for 2000 years (d estimate is actually less). After that, think about masculinism.”
I am glad that you have admitted the TRUE and REAL intention of feminism that I was trying to emphasise. Great! But where did you get this 2000 year figure from? Feminazi books? And what was before those 2000 years? Nobody wants to tell that. Well, this line of argument clearly shows that feminism is a movement to wage a war against men. Its not about equality. Now I can understand what went before those so-called 2000 years and there is no proof about 2000 years. [History about women is purely what feminists want society to believe].
”Am glad that you think us as new age taliban...we thought of you and other men the same way till few years back...so as i said we are on balancing mode. It will be only just if men could get a taste of their own poison!!!”
Let the women get the taste first. Ladies first. Ask for 33% reservation in tasting poison. Well, the poison is feminism, the new Talibanism.
”Rohan, A good idea on masculinism...But i guess it should wait another 2000 years to get started because right now we are in a balancing mode. we women want to give men back what they gave us for 2000 years (d estimate is actually less). After that, think about masculinism.”
I am glad that you have admitted the TRUE and REAL intention of feminism that I was trying to emphasise. Great! But where did you get this 2000 year figure from? Feminazi books? And what was before those 2000 years? Nobody wants to tell that. Well, this line of argument clearly shows that feminism is a movement to wage a war against men. Its not about equality. Now I can understand what went before those so-called 2000 years and there is no proof about 2000 years. [History about women is purely what feminists want society to believe].
”Am glad that you think us as new age taliban...we thought of you and other men the same way till few years back...so as i said we are on balancing mode. It will be only just if men could get a taste of their own poison!!!”
Let the women get the taste first. Ladies first. Ask for 33% reservation in tasting poison. Well, the poison is feminism, the new Talibanism.
(Local Perspectives)
@Chitra,
”since when ’men’ have been talking about fairness. and women had all the liberties and freedom since time immemorial, then i guess there would have been no feminism...no equality clashes...so i guess ”as you sow so shall you reap” and you cannot escape this fact rohan.. and ya women are much morally superior to men...accept it or reject..we do not give a damn... chitra”
This shows your hatred for men than anything else. I never said that men are all good. But I condemn the way women are claiming moral superiority over men. If indeed it is true, stop asking for equality. Nobody knows what happened 10 centuries ago or even before that. Nobody wants to explore why restrictions were imposed on women. Check that first. The way you are blasting, it shows what moral superiority you have over me. It shows that you are no way moral superior to men and you are having the same weaknesses as men have. You are not for equality but a sort of hatred and revenge. I just want women to stop taking advantages of tradition and modernity. P
”since when ’men’ have been talking about fairness. and women had all the liberties and freedom since time immemorial, then i guess there would have been no feminism...no equality clashes...so i guess ”as you sow so shall you reap” and you cannot escape this fact rohan.. and ya women are much morally superior to men...accept it or reject..we do not give a damn... chitra”
This shows your hatred for men than anything else. I never said that men are all good. But I condemn the way women are claiming moral superiority over men. If indeed it is true, stop asking for equality. Nobody knows what happened 10 centuries ago or even before that. Nobody wants to explore why restrictions were imposed on women. Check that first. The way you are blasting, it shows what moral superiority you have over me. It shows that you are no way moral superior to men and you are having the same weaknesses as men have. You are not for equality but a sort of hatred and revenge. I just want women to stop taking advantages of tradition and modernity. P
(Local Perspectives)
@Chitra,
”since when ’men’ have been talking about fairness. and women had all the liberties and freedom since time immemorial, then i guess there would have been no feminism...no equality clashes...so i guess ”as you sow so shall you reap” and you cannot escape this fact rohan..”
Since when have women been talking about fairness? They wanted men to do all the difficult jobs and protect and provide them. While they were in the safe confines of their homes. Now, since technology has made life easier, they want equality. This is called fairness.
”as you sow so shall you reap”
This applies to women aswell. Two wrongs cannot make a right. But you are trying to do that. It shows your moral superiority when you say that harm should be inflicted on men just because of harm was inflicted on women for some time. [We do not know how long it was. Feminism claims it to be 2000 years without evidence.] So much for moral superiority of women.
”since when ’men’ have been talking about fairness. and women had all the liberties and freedom since time immemorial, then i guess there would have been no feminism...no equality clashes...so i guess ”as you sow so shall you reap” and you cannot escape this fact rohan..”
Since when have women been talking about fairness? They wanted men to do all the difficult jobs and protect and provide them. While they were in the safe confines of their homes. Now, since technology has made life easier, they want equality. This is called fairness.
”as you sow so shall you reap”
This applies to women aswell. Two wrongs cannot make a right. But you are trying to do that. It shows your moral superiority when you say that harm should be inflicted on men just because of harm was inflicted on women for some time. [We do not know how long it was. Feminism claims it to be 2000 years without evidence.] So much for moral superiority of women.
(Local Perspectives)
@Chitra,
”Rohan, Why do you have any problem with reservation?”
In an equal society, there cannot be undue preference to any person or section of society. Reservations are anti-equality. It is based on the wrong notion that two wrongs make a right.
”And secondly, it is you who do not know the true and real meaning of feminism...how about going through a few books and come back to comment on feminism. know the origins of feminism and you would know what role MEN played in it...your comments sound as if you are anti-female”
I know what feminism is in reality. I don’t need to know theories from books. They mean nothing when in reality we see women like you who are waging a war against men. I am not a woman hater. I am a feminist hater. That is for sure. Feminists include men and women. I hate them both. I love women but I am pained the way they are being brainwashed by feminists. Ultimately, feminism is a war against men as you yourself have made comments to that effect and it is a movement that is anti-male, anti-family, anti-marriage and even anti-women. Anti-women because it forces a woman to work and in the end, when men realise the discrimination, they would force the women back into their cocoons. History repeats itself. The unknown number of years that women were discriminated were preceded by a similar situation of male discrimination and immoral behaviour.
”Rohan, Why do you have any problem with reservation?”
In an equal society, there cannot be undue preference to any person or section of society. Reservations are anti-equality. It is based on the wrong notion that two wrongs make a right.
”And secondly, it is you who do not know the true and real meaning of feminism...how about going through a few books and come back to comment on feminism. know the origins of feminism and you would know what role MEN played in it...your comments sound as if you are anti-female”
I know what feminism is in reality. I don’t need to know theories from books. They mean nothing when in reality we see women like you who are waging a war against men. I am not a woman hater. I am a feminist hater. That is for sure. Feminists include men and women. I hate them both. I love women but I am pained the way they are being brainwashed by feminists. Ultimately, feminism is a war against men as you yourself have made comments to that effect and it is a movement that is anti-male, anti-family, anti-marriage and even anti-women. Anti-women because it forces a woman to work and in the end, when men realise the discrimination, they would force the women back into their cocoons. History repeats itself. The unknown number of years that women were discriminated were preceded by a similar situation of male discrimination and immoral behaviour.
(Local Perspectives)
@Chitra,
”Rohan, ”stop asking for equality” my...my... really good...it shows just how a great chauvinist you are who is afraid that his rights will vanish if women are equal to men..Nothing new rohan...I have seen many like you who are now burning in the hell they have created... By the way, since your views are so anti-female, how do you treat the women in your life? What if any women you know faced harassment and she demanded justice?”
Oh my goodness! Another radical feminazi out here! I have seen plenty of you Chitra. You want female domination and call that equality? You want women to take the advantages of tradition and modernity and is that equality for you? Start paying up for equality. You can burn in hell if you wish but start paying up!
How do I treat women? I don’t allow them to take advantages of tradition and modernity. My women are not anti-male as you are!
”Rohan, ”stop asking for equality” my...my... really good...it shows just how a great chauvinist you are who is afraid that his rights will vanish if women are equal to men..Nothing new rohan...I have seen many like you who are now burning in the hell they have created... By the way, since your views are so anti-female, how do you treat the women in your life? What if any women you know faced harassment and she demanded justice?”
Oh my goodness! Another radical feminazi out here! I have seen plenty of you Chitra. You want female domination and call that equality? You want women to take the advantages of tradition and modernity and is that equality for you? Start paying up for equality. You can burn in hell if you wish but start paying up!
How do I treat women? I don’t allow them to take advantages of tradition and modernity. My women are not anti-male as you are!
(Local Perspectives)
@Chitra,
”Rohan, Earlier we did not as women were trained to be passive, but we have been talking about fairness since the day we realised we had been trampled upon. And please, nobody asked men to provide for us. Read theories on ”evolution” you will get to know men have the instinct to protect people around them especially their families. ” This applies to women aswell.”
Women were trained to be passive and in return they got moral superiority. Today, women cannot claim that right as women are liberated and aggressive. You claim to be fair but you are doing the same wrong which men committed. You cannot claim to be fair anymore. Women of earlier centuries were indeed fair Not women now. I have read enough stories of evolution and I know that the earliest man was the hunter and the woman was the gatherer. Since the dangers were too great from nature, and men were the stronger sex, they were protecting the women. Now, you feminists want men to continue to do that but same time want equality. You want moral superiority and still claim equality? What nonsense. Yes, women want men to protect and provide for them. That’s why they claim alimony and maintenance inspite of working and getting good salaries.
”Not even women are interested to dig out ghosts of the pasts..but you know some men do have less understanding..thats when we dig out the past to show them the mirror on the miseries they inflected upon us...One cannot escape one’s past. At the same time, I am not saying that all men should suffer because of some thing done thousands of years ago...ok?”
If women don’t want to dig past, then don’t.You dig past when it suits you. I didn’t know that today;s men were responsible for the miseries of yesteryears women. I didn’t know that men of today have been living for centuries. I didn’t know that you have been around for centuries too see all that.
”So lets get down to contemporary times. Do you know the crime rate against women? Or the sexual abuses? Or the rape cases done on the name of morality? In the name of proving their masculinity, they are degrading themselves more.”
Yes, but do you know the crime rate against men? Do you know that when a woman complains, even if it is false, there are several laws to deal with the man. These laws are cognisable, non-bailable, non-compoundable and treat the man ”Guilty until proven innocent”. When the man complains against a woman,the society laughs at him even though we boast to be an equal society. The police can at best file a non-cognisable complaint. Noncognisable means -No cognisance, and such cases don’t get added to the NCRB statistics. So, we now know why huge number of crimes on women are shown as statistics while there are no statistics about crimes on men. Men don’t need to prove their masculinity. It is feminists who are bloating statistics and imprisoning men at will and harming their own cause.
”What is lacking is an awareness about both genders. And education helps a lot. But sometimes education does not help seeing your comments. Every movement has a darker side, so has feminism. No doubt that some women use it negatively (as you said), but if you would have understood feminism, I bet your perceptions would have been different.”
I am not a fool to educate myself with feminist textbooks and read feminist magazines like femina and women’s era. I am glad that you accept that feminism has the darker side. But feminism in its very concept is absurd as it does not recognise the differences between men and women. Men and women are biologically different and hence their roles also have to be different. THis, feminism does not recognise. Equality is concept born out of such intellectual bankruptisy.
”Rohan, Earlier we did not as women were trained to be passive, but we have been talking about fairness since the day we realised we had been trampled upon. And please, nobody asked men to provide for us. Read theories on ”evolution” you will get to know men have the instinct to protect people around them especially their families. ” This applies to women aswell.”
Women were trained to be passive and in return they got moral superiority. Today, women cannot claim that right as women are liberated and aggressive. You claim to be fair but you are doing the same wrong which men committed. You cannot claim to be fair anymore. Women of earlier centuries were indeed fair Not women now. I have read enough stories of evolution and I know that the earliest man was the hunter and the woman was the gatherer. Since the dangers were too great from nature, and men were the stronger sex, they were protecting the women. Now, you feminists want men to continue to do that but same time want equality. You want moral superiority and still claim equality? What nonsense. Yes, women want men to protect and provide for them. That’s why they claim alimony and maintenance inspite of working and getting good salaries.
”Not even women are interested to dig out ghosts of the pasts..but you know some men do have less understanding..thats when we dig out the past to show them the mirror on the miseries they inflected upon us...One cannot escape one’s past. At the same time, I am not saying that all men should suffer because of some thing done thousands of years ago...ok?”
If women don’t want to dig past, then don’t.You dig past when it suits you. I didn’t know that today;s men were responsible for the miseries of yesteryears women. I didn’t know that men of today have been living for centuries. I didn’t know that you have been around for centuries too see all that.
”So lets get down to contemporary times. Do you know the crime rate against women? Or the sexual abuses? Or the rape cases done on the name of morality? In the name of proving their masculinity, they are degrading themselves more.”
Yes, but do you know the crime rate against men? Do you know that when a woman complains, even if it is false, there are several laws to deal with the man. These laws are cognisable, non-bailable, non-compoundable and treat the man ”Guilty until proven innocent”. When the man complains against a woman,the society laughs at him even though we boast to be an equal society. The police can at best file a non-cognisable complaint. Noncognisable means -No cognisance, and such cases don’t get added to the NCRB statistics. So, we now know why huge number of crimes on women are shown as statistics while there are no statistics about crimes on men. Men don’t need to prove their masculinity. It is feminists who are bloating statistics and imprisoning men at will and harming their own cause.
”What is lacking is an awareness about both genders. And education helps a lot. But sometimes education does not help seeing your comments. Every movement has a darker side, so has feminism. No doubt that some women use it negatively (as you said), but if you would have understood feminism, I bet your perceptions would have been different.”
I am not a fool to educate myself with feminist textbooks and read feminist magazines like femina and women’s era. I am glad that you accept that feminism has the darker side. But feminism in its very concept is absurd as it does not recognise the differences between men and women. Men and women are biologically different and hence their roles also have to be different. THis, feminism does not recognise. Equality is concept born out of such intellectual bankruptisy.
(Local Perspectives)
@Mita,
”Chitra, I suggest you stop debating it out with Rohan. He is not ready to respect the views of other people who do not agree with him. He turns personal and abusive. I don’t know what he has against feminists and how they have harmed him, but he has taken it upon himself to sabotage the development of women in India which he terms as ’feminist’”
I respect others views as long as they don’t abuse me and as long as they don’t argue for the sake of it. I have seen enough of your arguments which are merely aimed at arguments and for their own sake. I have everything against feminists because they are harming the men and their fundamental rights. Feminism is not just an anti-male movement but an anti-women movement too as more than 1.3 Lakh women were arrested without investigation in the last 5 years. So much for feminism and feminazism.
”Chitra, I suggest you stop debating it out with Rohan. He is not ready to respect the views of other people who do not agree with him. He turns personal and abusive. I don’t know what he has against feminists and how they have harmed him, but he has taken it upon himself to sabotage the development of women in India which he terms as ’feminist’”
I respect others views as long as they don’t abuse me and as long as they don’t argue for the sake of it. I have seen enough of your arguments which are merely aimed at arguments and for their own sake. I have everything against feminists because they are harming the men and their fundamental rights. Feminism is not just an anti-male movement but an anti-women movement too as more than 1.3 Lakh women were arrested without investigation in the last 5 years. So much for feminism and feminazism.
(Local Perspectives)
@Chitra,
”Rohan, Exactly, there should not be any reservation. But if men are not mentally ready to accept women as equal, I am afraid but we have learned to ask for our rights!!!
Are women ready to accept men as equal? They are not! They want the advantages of tradition and modernity. Hence, this reservation and equality is a clever trick by feminists to fool men. Equality never existed between men and women as women were considered morally superior to men and empathy and sympathy were always for women. Women were the first to be taken off a sinking ship and they got away with lesser punishments for the same crimes while men bore the brunt of such pamperment of women. So, men should ask for equality and rights. Men should learn to ask for equality and rights.
Well, You mean to say women should not work????? this just PROVES your mentality rohan. you are one of those women who think women are for kitchen and sex only; men who treat women as doormat. Your comment showed you fall into this category. Very sorry to say that.
In the west, the feminists forced women out to work, to neglect their families and break free from their traditional roles At the same time, men were never allowed to break free from tradition and men are still expected to protect and provide for women. I believe that women and men being different have their own unique roles to play. Feminists like you cannot digest anything other that your theories. I believe that women are nurturers and that is their primary role. That does’t make them sex-machines or baby producing machines. Men are the provider and protectors of society as historically, they have always done that against external threat. This doesn;t make men ATM machines and disposable creatures as women want them to be. It doesn;t mean that women are doormats; nor does it make men disposable dogs for women. It is a mutual arrangement for the benefit of society and it has been going on since ages.
”And ” anti-family”...IS REARING FAMILIES THE ONLY DESTINY OF WOMEN??? not surprising this is coming from you. And who has given men the right to ”force the women back into their cocoons.” you think what men do are for good and their words should be followed by women without any questions.If you think this, you are gravely wrong in your understanding of women. Not even 0.001% has gone into you head.
Is protecting and providing for women the only destiny of men? Start paying up for equality then. Fine, do what you like but start paying up! Stop asking for moral superiority, stop demanding empathy as men also crave for it and start paying the price of equality. Start paying men maintenance and alimony. Stand at the border and defend the nation. Die like a dog and let your hubbies claim your insurance and other benefits. I am fine with it then.
”Rohan, Exactly, there should not be any reservation. But if men are not mentally ready to accept women as equal, I am afraid but we have learned to ask for our rights!!!
Are women ready to accept men as equal? They are not! They want the advantages of tradition and modernity. Hence, this reservation and equality is a clever trick by feminists to fool men. Equality never existed between men and women as women were considered morally superior to men and empathy and sympathy were always for women. Women were the first to be taken off a sinking ship and they got away with lesser punishments for the same crimes while men bore the brunt of such pamperment of women. So, men should ask for equality and rights. Men should learn to ask for equality and rights.
Well, You mean to say women should not work????? this just PROVES your mentality rohan. you are one of those women who think women are for kitchen and sex only; men who treat women as doormat. Your comment showed you fall into this category. Very sorry to say that.
In the west, the feminists forced women out to work, to neglect their families and break free from their traditional roles At the same time, men were never allowed to break free from tradition and men are still expected to protect and provide for women. I believe that women and men being different have their own unique roles to play. Feminists like you cannot digest anything other that your theories. I believe that women are nurturers and that is their primary role. That does’t make them sex-machines or baby producing machines. Men are the provider and protectors of society as historically, they have always done that against external threat. This doesn;t make men ATM machines and disposable creatures as women want them to be. It doesn;t mean that women are doormats; nor does it make men disposable dogs for women. It is a mutual arrangement for the benefit of society and it has been going on since ages.
”And ” anti-family”...IS REARING FAMILIES THE ONLY DESTINY OF WOMEN??? not surprising this is coming from you. And who has given men the right to ”force the women back into their cocoons.” you think what men do are for good and their words should be followed by women without any questions.If you think this, you are gravely wrong in your understanding of women. Not even 0.001% has gone into you head.
Is protecting and providing for women the only destiny of men? Start paying up for equality then. Fine, do what you like but start paying up! Stop asking for moral superiority, stop demanding empathy as men also crave for it and start paying the price of equality. Start paying men maintenance and alimony. Stand at the border and defend the nation. Die like a dog and let your hubbies claim your insurance and other benefits. I am fine with it then.
(Local Perspectives)
@Chitraparna,
”Rohan, Why do you have any problem with reservation?”——————————-
Why do I have a problem? The same reason why you have a problem with dowry, Taliban, sati, discrimination of women etc. Have you gone nuts? You don’t have a concept of equality and are claiming to be an equalist.
”And secondly, it is you who do not know the true and real meaning of feminism...how about going through a few books and come back to comment on feminism.”——————————-
Bookisk knowledge eh? BTW, I have read enough to know that feminism is all about hatred of men, misandry, androphobia and to treat men like dogs!!! If feminism was not that, then we wouldn’t have anti-male laws and institutions.
”Rohan, Why do you have any problem with reservation?”——————————-
Why do I have a problem? The same reason why you have a problem with dowry, Taliban, sati, discrimination of women etc. Have you gone nuts? You don’t have a concept of equality and are claiming to be an equalist.
”And secondly, it is you who do not know the true and real meaning of feminism...how about going through a few books and come back to comment on feminism.”——————————-
Bookisk knowledge eh? BTW, I have read enough to know that feminism is all about hatred of men, misandry, androphobia and to treat men like dogs!!! If feminism was not that, then we wouldn’t have anti-male laws and institutions.
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan,
A good idea on masculinism...But i guess it should wait another 2000 years
to get started because right now we are in a balancing mode. we women want
to give men back what they gave us for 2000 years (d estimate is actually
less). After that, think about masculinism.
Am glad that you think us as new age taliban...we thought of you and other
men the same way till few years back...so as i said we are on balancing
mode.
It will be only just if men could get a taste of their own poison!!!
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan
”WE are living amidst misandry, androphobia, feminism etc. This is not fair
for men”
really???? since when ’men’ have been talking about fairness. and women had
all the liberties and freedom since time immemorial, then i guess there
would have been no feminism...no equality clashes...so i guess ”as you sow
so shall you reap” and you cannot escape this fact rohan..
and ya women are much morally superior to men...accept it or reject..we do
not give a damn...
chitra
(Local Perspectives)
i meant if women had all the liberties...the ’if’ got missed..
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan,
Why do you have any problem with reservation?
And secondly, it is you who do not know the true and real meaning of
feminism...how about going through a few books and come back to comment on
feminism. know the origins of feminism and you would know what role MEN
played in it...your comments sound as if you are anti-female...
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan,
”stop asking for equality”
my...my... really good...it shows just how a great chauvinist you are who is
afraid that his rights will vanish if women are equal to men..Nothing new
rohan...I have seen many like you who are now burning in the hell they have
created...
By the way, since your views are so anti-female, how do you treat the women
in your life? What if any women you know faced harassment and she demanded
justice? Would you still tell her that please don’t ask for justice because
then law will treat you as equal to us and then where will we go???
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan,
Earlier we did not as women were trained to be passive, but we have been
talking about fairness since the day we realised we had been trampled upon.
And please, nobody asked men to provide for us. Read theories on ”evolution”
you will get to know men have the instinct to protect people around them
especially their families.
” This applies to women aswell. Two wrongs cannot make a right. But you are
trying to do that. It shows your moral superiority when you say that harm
should be inflicted on men just because of harm was inflicted on women for
some time. [We do not know how long it was. Feminism claims it to be 2000
years without evidence.] So much for moral superiority of women”
Not even women are interested to dig out ghosts of the pasts..but you know
some men do have less understanding..thats when we dig out the past to show
them the mirror on the miseries they inflected upon us...One cannot escape
one’s past. At the same time, I am not saying that all men should suffer
because of some thing done thousands of years ago...ok?
So lets get down to contemporary times. Do you know the crime rate against
women? Or the sexual abuses? Or the rape cases done on the name of morality?
In the name of proving their masculinity, they are degrading themselves
more.
What is lacking is an awareness about both genders. And education helps a
lot. But sometimes education does not help seeing your comments.
Every movement has a darker side, so has feminism. No doubt that some women
use it negatively (as you said), but if you would have understood feminism,
I bet your perceptions would have been different.
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Rohan,
Exactly, there should not be any reservation. But if men are not mentally
ready to accept women as equal, I am afraid but we have learned to ask for
our rights!!!
”Ultimately, feminism is a war against men as you yourself have made
comments to that effect and it is a movement that is anti-male, anti-family,
anti-marriage and even anti-women. Anti-women because it forces a woman to
work and in the end, when men realise the discrimination, they would force
the women back into their cocoons”.
Well, You mean to say women should not work????? this just PROVES your
mentality rohan. you are one of those women who think women are for kitchen
and sex only; men who treat women as doormat. Your comment showed you fall
into this category. Very sorry to say that.
And ” anti-family”...IS REARING FAMILIES THE ONLY DESTINY OF WOMEN??? not
surprising this is coming from you.
And who has given men the right to ”force the women back into their
cocoons.” you think what men do are for good and their words should be
followed by women without any questions.If you think this, you are gravely
wrong in your understanding of women. Not even 0.001% has gone into you
head.
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Chitra, I suggest you stop debating it out with Rohan. He is not ready to
respect the views of other people who do not agree with him. He turns
personal and abusive. I don’t know what he has against feminists and how
they have harmed him, but he has taken it upon himself to sabotage the
development of women in India which he terms as ’feminist’ (and that too in
the wrong sense). I just unsubscribed from his thread (or maybe it was
Arvind’s).
(Local Perspectives)
@ Rohan
"I am not a woman hater. I am a feminist hater. That is for sure. Feminists include men and women. I hate them both. I love women but I am pained the way they are being brainwashed by feminists."
This post is bout women and not feminists. Why do you have to drag every conversation on the same topic? Earlier women used to feel bad for men’s behavior, now its opposite. Fair enough. Accept it. Nothing will change by posting 200 more comments here. Please do something constructive in your life.
"I am not a woman hater. I am a feminist hater. That is for sure. Feminists include men and women. I hate them both. I love women but I am pained the way they are being brainwashed by feminists."
This post is bout women and not feminists. Why do you have to drag every conversation on the same topic? Earlier women used to feel bad for men’s behavior, now its opposite. Fair enough. Accept it. Nothing will change by posting 200 more comments here. Please do something constructive in your life.
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@Surya,
”This post is bout women and not feminists. Why do you have to drag every conversation on the same topic?”
Its about how women are portrayed and how men are blamed for it. Hence it is about feminism. If men are fairly portrayed, I have no problem.
”Earlier women used to feel bad for men’s behavior, now its opposite. Fair enough. Accept it. Nothing will change by posting 200 more comments here.”
I am glad that you accept that men are feeling bad. But its not fair enough and why should I accept it? Can you accept women being protrayed badly?
”Please do something constructive in your life.”
That’s none of your business!
”This post is bout women and not feminists. Why do you have to drag every conversation on the same topic?”
Its about how women are portrayed and how men are blamed for it. Hence it is about feminism. If men are fairly portrayed, I have no problem.
”Earlier women used to feel bad for men’s behavior, now its opposite. Fair enough. Accept it. Nothing will change by posting 200 more comments here.”
I am glad that you accept that men are feeling bad. But its not fair enough and why should I accept it? Can you accept women being protrayed badly?
”Please do something constructive in your life.”
That’s none of your business!
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@ Rohan
Sanwali explained things to you in very straight and neutral manner. Still you are beating around the bush. The problem with you is that you have a closed mind in this matter and arguing with a closed minded person is stupidity. So I request Chitra to move out of this conversation coz some men never change.
Sanwali explained things to you in very straight and neutral manner. Still you are beating around the bush. The problem with you is that you have a closed mind in this matter and arguing with a closed minded person is stupidity. So I request Chitra to move out of this conversation coz some men never change.
(Local Perspectives)
@Surya,
”Sanwali explained things to you in very straight and neutral manner. Still you are beating around the bush. The problem with you is that you have a closed mind in this matter and arguing with a closed minded person is stupidity. So I request Chitra to move out of this conversation coz some men never change.”
I agreed with Sanwali. But Chitra started it off by saying that men should suffer. So, I am not in conversation with Sanwali. I am here with Chitra. Read the posts and you will know better. It is women like you who have a closed mind. Not me. I have already agreed with Sanwali. Chitra has no business to attack men.
”Sanwali explained things to you in very straight and neutral manner. Still you are beating around the bush. The problem with you is that you have a closed mind in this matter and arguing with a closed minded person is stupidity. So I request Chitra to move out of this conversation coz some men never change.”
I agreed with Sanwali. But Chitra started it off by saying that men should suffer. So, I am not in conversation with Sanwali. I am here with Chitra. Read the posts and you will know better. It is women like you who have a closed mind. Not me. I have already agreed with Sanwali. Chitra has no business to attack men.
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@Mita,
”Hi Chitra, that is the reason exactly I unsubscribed from a thread. He is trying to hijack this thread too.”
I have clearly mentioned what I intended to. With Sanwali, things were clear. I also explained to Wayne and it was fine. But why the hell did Chitra start off from nowhere when things were fine?
”Hi Chitra, that is the reason exactly I unsubscribed from a thread. He is trying to hijack this thread too.”
I have clearly mentioned what I intended to. With Sanwali, things were clear. I also explained to Wayne and it was fine. But why the hell did Chitra start off from nowhere when things were fine?
(Local Perspectives)
HI MITA,
Just did that before your comment arrived. I could go on and on with him but
it is just pointless..
(Local Perspectives)
Hi Chitra, that is the reason exactly I unsubscribed from a thread. He is
trying to hijack this thread too.
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan
I put my left hand out and you cut it off as well- but i still have my voice so i am saying to you –have a nice day and hope your journey goes without bumps
Now all i ask of you is to tell me to –have a nice day
Your fellow male and human Wayne!
I put my left hand out and you cut it off as well- but i still have my voice so i am saying to you –have a nice day and hope your journey goes without bumps
Now all i ask of you is to tell me to –have a nice day
Your fellow male and human Wayne!
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Wayne,
No point in this. Some people do not change and while changing them, we seem
to be foolish...Anyhow this is my opinion. You continue with the noble deed..
Hope the intended understands.
(Local Perspectives)
Wayne,
you have no right to degrade india in this manner without knowing the facts. Do you know you stand liable to be sued for defamation for this wrong information ?
you have no right to degrade india in this manner without knowing the facts. Do you know you stand liable to be sued for defamation for this wrong information ?
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Virag
No disrespect and if i did please forgive me
Virag i will try not to do that!
Have a good day and peace be with you
No disrespect and if i did please forgive me
Virag i will try not to do that!
Have a good day and peace be with you
(Global Perspectives)
Which portion/s of the post do you think are derogatory statements against
India, Virag? Whatever is mentioned in this post is known to everyone in
this world. Wayne may have just put it on paper. Research papers by UNICEF,
WHO, and other national and international organization would give you the
statistics. Check those out.
(Local Perspectives)
@Mita,
and whatever is on the other side has been suppressed by feminists and women.
and whatever is on the other side has been suppressed by feminists and women.
(Local Perspectives)
Chitrapara
Thanks for your kind thoughts
I think every human has a sence of good will towards others ,even if they disagree and i think Rohan unless mentally ill is a hard nut with a good soul
We can only work on one issue at a time as each has their own and different set of circumstances
A life of misery is only felt by the individual living it
Thanks for your kind thoughts
I think every human has a sence of good will towards others ,even if they disagree and i think Rohan unless mentally ill is a hard nut with a good soul
We can only work on one issue at a time as each has their own and different set of circumstances
A life of misery is only felt by the individual living it
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Wayne,
The women of India need to help other women. It is wrong to lay blame on Men.
I see Indian world with five dimensions
a) Caste b) Class c)Religion d)Language e) Gender.
India is a mix of these dimensions. Blaming men for all ills is a western way of identifying problems and solving.
Guess what, all these years in Catholic religion, women never had any powers? So will you blame Men?
The women of India need to help other women. It is wrong to lay blame on Men.
I see Indian world with five dimensions
a) Caste b) Class c)Religion d)Language e) Gender.
India is a mix of these dimensions. Blaming men for all ills is a western way of identifying problems and solving.
Guess what, all these years in Catholic religion, women never had any powers? So will you blame Men?
(Local Perspectives)
Madhup
Hope all is well
Madhup I am not blaming anyone or do i have a solution for the problems of woman in India
All i am doing is walking through life and when i see something i say (oh )there is a bad situation or there is something interesting in life
I take no stand or judge anything, i am just walking through a Forrest of life looking and commenting with no expertise on how it grew or how to make it grow better
There are billions of eyes that see things and i have only two
Hope all is well
Madhup I am not blaming anyone or do i have a solution for the problems of woman in India
All i am doing is walking through life and when i see something i say (oh )there is a bad situation or there is something interesting in life
I take no stand or judge anything, i am just walking through a Forrest of life looking and commenting with no expertise on how it grew or how to make it grow better
There are billions of eyes that see things and i have only two
(Global Perspectives)
Yes, very true. Men can not be blamed always for the ills perpetrated to
women. You have very rightly pointed out the five dimensions. I agree with
it whole heartedly. However, just blaming men or women for the condition of
women in India is not enough. Every citizen in India can contribute in their
own way to the betterment of women’s condition. Men can make our country
safe for women, they can share some of the responsibilities that have been
specifically earmarked for women, and they can help by empathizing with
them. Women need to be more conscious of their less fortunate sisters and
extend a helping hand to them in any way they can.
As regards, powers of women in Catholic religion, well, the Church mainly
consisted of men. The rules and regulations were created by them. And this
is the reason women didn’t have any powers. So, yes, in a way, men ARE to be
blamed for this.
As
(Local Perspectives)
@Madhup,
”Guess what, all these years in Catholic religion, women never had any powers? So will you blame Men?”
Nobody goes into the background and question why it happened at all. Nobody questions why and what led to discrimination of women for several years. We cannot have history without any reason and with one-sided propaganda. We know only a small part of the truth.
”Guess what, all these years in Catholic religion, women never had any powers? So will you blame Men?”
Nobody goes into the background and question why it happened at all. Nobody questions why and what led to discrimination of women for several years. We cannot have history without any reason and with one-sided propaganda. We know only a small part of the truth.
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@Chitra,
”Don’t take offence Rohan, but have you ever considered seeing clinical psychiatrist to solve this ever burning desire in you to criticise women without any strong foundation? Why are you deviating from the essence of wayne’s article. It is about the plight of women and not a thesis on feminism.”
It is women like you who need to consult psychiatrists as you said,”Men should get back what they inflicted for 2000 years” which is a sadistic statement, irrational and illogical besides violent. AS though today’s men liked for 2000 years and have been inflicting pain on today’s women who also lived for 2000 years. This analysis is a new form of disease. I don’t critizise women. When I say ”Women”, I mean feminist women like you. That’s what I meant. Not all women are feminists. Many of my own friends are not. I apologise for calling all women feminists with that gap in communication. I only meant feminist-women. Not all women. The foundation of how feminists manipulate the system is already there. They want the advantages of tradition and modernity for women. Rights without responsibilities.
Lastly, I was clear about Wayne’s article and I have mentioned it to him and Sanwali too. But I am offended by your comment that today’s men should pay for 2000 years. [Not that I believe such numbers anyway. You cannot expect me to take it lying down.
”Don’t take offence Rohan, but have you ever considered seeing clinical psychiatrist to solve this ever burning desire in you to criticise women without any strong foundation? Why are you deviating from the essence of wayne’s article. It is about the plight of women and not a thesis on feminism.”
It is women like you who need to consult psychiatrists as you said,”Men should get back what they inflicted for 2000 years” which is a sadistic statement, irrational and illogical besides violent. AS though today’s men liked for 2000 years and have been inflicting pain on today’s women who also lived for 2000 years. This analysis is a new form of disease. I don’t critizise women. When I say ”Women”, I mean feminist women like you. That’s what I meant. Not all women are feminists. Many of my own friends are not. I apologise for calling all women feminists with that gap in communication. I only meant feminist-women. Not all women. The foundation of how feminists manipulate the system is already there. They want the advantages of tradition and modernity for women. Rights without responsibilities.
Lastly, I was clear about Wayne’s article and I have mentioned it to him and Sanwali too. But I am offended by your comment that today’s men should pay for 2000 years. [Not that I believe such numbers anyway. You cannot expect me to take it lying down.
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@Chitra,
”Rohan, Well fine, consider me an anti-male. I do not give a damn to what you think.. ”
Nor do I care for your stupid allegations.
”Nothing more can be accepted out of you. I am very sure the women you know must be suffocated with your presence and staunch views. Its not me who have to pay up...it’s you who have to. burn in your helll, if not now, but later for sure.”
Women around me don’t ask me both ways. They know that I don’t pamper them like other men. Women like you should burn in hell for spoiling other women. Utimately, women themselves will suffer.
”You know what your problem is. YOU ARE AFRAID seeing the new surge of women demanding their rights of equality. You are afraid that your place as a MAN will be snatched away by a woman. Thats what your problem is.”
Women want not equality but rights without resonsibilities as you yourself have said, ”Next 2000 years, the men have to suffer”. I am not an idiot to keep quiet about it. Slowly the other men are realising it too.
”And believe me, women are not interested in snatching away anyone’s rights which you are going to disagree again...You are simply very predictable.”
Your statments don’t mean anything as what we are witnessing is something very different. Don’t be a hypocrat as your own statements earlier have said that men should suffer discrimination.
”Rohan, Well fine, consider me an anti-male. I do not give a damn to what you think.. ”
Nor do I care for your stupid allegations.
”Nothing more can be accepted out of you. I am very sure the women you know must be suffocated with your presence and staunch views. Its not me who have to pay up...it’s you who have to. burn in your helll, if not now, but later for sure.”
Women around me don’t ask me both ways. They know that I don’t pamper them like other men. Women like you should burn in hell for spoiling other women. Utimately, women themselves will suffer.
”You know what your problem is. YOU ARE AFRAID seeing the new surge of women demanding their rights of equality. You are afraid that your place as a MAN will be snatched away by a woman. Thats what your problem is.”
Women want not equality but rights without resonsibilities as you yourself have said, ”Next 2000 years, the men have to suffer”. I am not an idiot to keep quiet about it. Slowly the other men are realising it too.
”And believe me, women are not interested in snatching away anyone’s rights which you are going to disagree again...You are simply very predictable.”
Your statments don’t mean anything as what we are witnessing is something very different. Don’t be a hypocrat as your own statements earlier have said that men should suffer discrimination.
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@Chitra,
”WHY NOT ENLIGHTEN US ON YOUR NOBLE THOUGHTS ON FEMALE EQUALITY?”
I have already said this. But I repeat. Men and women are biologically different and have different roles to play. There is no comparison between two differently abled creatures. They are both equal but different. Feminism is unnatural and intellectually bankrupt as it does not even recognise these differences. Utopian views don’t help as they are not practical. Rest, I have explained it earlier. No need to repeat.
”WHY NOT ENLIGHTEN US ON YOUR NOBLE THOUGHTS ON FEMALE EQUALITY?”
I have already said this. But I repeat. Men and women are biologically different and have different roles to play. There is no comparison between two differently abled creatures. They are both equal but different. Feminism is unnatural and intellectually bankrupt as it does not even recognise these differences. Utopian views don’t help as they are not practical. Rest, I have explained it earlier. No need to repeat.
(Local Perspectives)
@Chitra,
”ROHAN will reply to this comment when i am little bit free. you can expect a long sermon”
I am not interested in these discussions as they get me nowhere. Society learns its lessons the hard way. You can go ahead with your views. I have the right to my views. I have made everybody know that there are different shades of opinion and not everybody agrees with feminazism. That’s enough for me.
”ROHAN will reply to this comment when i am little bit free. you can expect a long sermon”
I am not interested in these discussions as they get me nowhere. Society learns its lessons the hard way. You can go ahead with your views. I have the right to my views. I have made everybody know that there are different shades of opinion and not everybody agrees with feminazism. That’s enough for me.
(Local Perspectives)
@Chitraparna,
The plight of some rural women has been converted into a man-bashing one and spreading hatred of men. This is where the problem lies. Feminists need to be consulting Psychiatrists. Its an incurable illness for feminists though.
The plight of some rural women has been converted into a man-bashing one and spreading hatred of men. This is where the problem lies. Feminists need to be consulting Psychiatrists. Its an incurable illness for feminists though.
(Local Perspectives)
Don’t take offence Rohan, but have you ever considered seeing
clinical psychiatrist to solve this ever burning desire in you to criticise
women without any strong foundation?
Why are you deviating from the essence of wayne’s article. It is about the
plight of women and not a thesis on feminism.
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan,
Well fine, consider me an anti-male. I do not give a damn to what you think..
” I dont allow them to take advantages of tradition and modernity”.
Nothing more can be accepted out of you. I am very sure the women you know
must be suffocated with your presence and staunch views.
Its not me who have to pay up...it’s you who have to. burn in your helll,
if not now, but later for sure.
You know what your problem is. YOU ARE AFRAID seeing the new surge of women
demanding their rights of equality. You are afraid that your place as a MAN
will be snatched away by a woman. Thats what your problem is. And believe
me, women are not interested in snatching away anyone’s rights which you are
going to disagree again...You are simply very predictable.
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan,
And since you seem to know what equality is.
WHY NOT ENLIGHTEN US ON YOUR NOBLE THOUGHTS ON FEMALE EQUALITY?
(Local Perspectives)
ROHAN
will reply to this comment when i am little bit free. you can expect a long
sermon.
(Local Perspectives)
Rohan,
AM not attacking men...I replied first seeing your comment to Mita i
think...So do not blame me if you cant understand simple english as to what
i mean.. If you have any problem, just stop relying.
(Local Perspectives)
Wayne,
all is well. thanks.
Glad you accept my point and also the same two eyes can identify the other dimensions in each of these women photos.
It is a multi-dimensional upliftment that will serve these women rather than single.
Let you be blessed with God, Class, Caste, Region, and Gendered thoughts
all is well. thanks.
Glad you accept my point and also the same two eyes can identify the other dimensions in each of these women photos.
It is a multi-dimensional upliftment that will serve these women rather than single.
Let you be blessed with God, Class, Caste, Region, and Gendered thoughts
(Local Perspectives)
Wayne very good and well written article..
@Rohan
You are treated the way you treat others..so basically men who get bad treatment from women are doing the same to other women. These men who moan about men’s rights are either too demanding or their expectations are unrealistic. They should first change their attitude towards women and see the difference…. I don’t hate me…all the men I know are angels…doesn’t mean all male species are so... I treat them love and respect and I get back the same from them.
What you preach here and the examples you provide constitutes only a minority of men. Those men who know to treat women will have a different version about women. There are many men in this site who talk about women with respect…and they don’t have any complaints about women abusing men..
Bottom line is men who are abused by women are letting them do it! No men or no women can exploit the opposite sex unless they let them do it.
Making a new law for men abuse is not gonna change anything.. we do have law for women abuse..still its happening everyday.
@Rohan
You are treated the way you treat others..so basically men who get bad treatment from women are doing the same to other women. These men who moan about men’s rights are either too demanding or their expectations are unrealistic. They should first change their attitude towards women and see the difference…. I don’t hate me…all the men I know are angels…doesn’t mean all male species are so... I treat them love and respect and I get back the same from them.
What you preach here and the examples you provide constitutes only a minority of men. Those men who know to treat women will have a different version about women. There are many men in this site who talk about women with respect…and they don’t have any complaints about women abusing men..
Bottom line is men who are abused by women are letting them do it! No men or no women can exploit the opposite sex unless they let them do it.
Making a new law for men abuse is not gonna change anything.. we do have law for women abuse..still its happening everyday.
(Global Perspectives)
if women laws have built in safeguards that really address the false cases, it should help.
nowadays every tom, dick and harry file cases and corruption ensures the harrasment of men, his men/women members of family. such blatant misuse is undermining noble causes.
nowadays every tom, dick and harry file cases and corruption ensures the harrasment of men, his men/women members of family. such blatant misuse is undermining noble causes.
(Local Perspectives)
@Mita,
”You are treated the way you treat others..so
basically men who get bad treatment from women are doing the same to
other women. These men who moan about men’s rights are either too
demanding or their expectations are unrealistic.”
What logic is this? Men who are treated badly by women know that women can do it. So, they have woken up to their rights. People who fight for men’s rights are not demanding more than what is demanded of equality. If women can claim alimony and DV, why can’t men? Women should stop taking the advantages of tradition and modernity. This does not amount to demanding too much or having unreaslistic expectations.
”They should first
change their attitude towards women and see the difference….”
Sorry, I don’t pamper women. I know what you mean by saying that if we change our attitude, there will be difference. What you imply is that if men stop demanding equality, and pamper women, women are okay with it. Sorry, not possible. I am not hen-pecked like others.
”I
don’t hate me…all the men I know are angels…doesn’t mean all
male species are so... I treat them love and respect and I get back the
same from them.
What you preach here and the examples you
provide constitutes only a minority of men. Those men who know to treat
women will have a different version about women.”
You don’t hate men as long as they pamper you with benefits of tradition and modernity. What I preach here is a minority and I agree. But numbers don’t make for right and wrong. At one time, only one man knew that the earth was NOT the center of the universe. He was stoned to death for that. Today, a minority of men are affected by feminism and soon, this number would rise.. 10 years back, nobody in India knew the extent of the evil of feminism. Today, more than 1.3 lakh women have been arrested witrhout investigation due to feminism. In the west, the society is slowly realising the evil effects of feminism. Those men who treat women the way women want to be treated do it for their own sexual interests. I do not wish to lose my self-respect for my sexual needs.
”There are many men in
this site who talk about women with respect…and they don’t have any
complaints about women abusing men.”
They do it for their own reasons. I also respect women but don’t pamper them. That’s the difference. Those guys don’t have any complaints about abuse women until they get abused themselves. They are caught in traditional mindsets that make them believe that women cannot do harm. True. Some centuries back, women were beyond evil. Not anymore.
”Bottom line is men who
are abused by women are letting them do it! No men or no women can
exploit the opposite sex unless they let them do it.”
So you mean to say that women who are abused are also letting them do it?
”Making a new law for men abuse is not gonna change anything.. we do have law for women abuse..still its happening everyday.”
If so, remove the laws that protect women if it doesn’t help women.
THIS IS MY LAST ONE. CAN’T WASTE MY TIME ANYMORE.
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@Chitraparna,
For feminists like you, the so-called time wrap is applicable only when it suits them. When it comes to inconvenient issues such as making domestic violence against men by women a crime or paying alimony to men, maintenance to men or fighting in combat, women want tradition to prevail. They want to be in a time wrap. They still blame the men and accuse them of being in a time wrap. You call me immatured just because I am frank and open about the feminist fraud. Tolerance is okay upto a point. Not when fraud is taking place.
For feminists like you, the so-called time wrap is applicable only when it suits them. When it comes to inconvenient issues such as making domestic violence against men by women a crime or paying alimony to men, maintenance to men or fighting in combat, women want tradition to prevail. They want to be in a time wrap. They still blame the men and accuse them of being in a time wrap. You call me immatured just because I am frank and open about the feminist fraud. Tolerance is okay upto a point. Not when fraud is taking place.
(Local Perspectives)
Mita, there are too many feminists out here with similar names. So got confused.
(Local Perspectives)
rohan,
you are living in a time-warped condition.
So I do not want to argue anymore with you. I have better thing to do with
my life than argue here.
And stop saying I started all these. Like you I am too a member here so
don’t think only your comments will be heard. And I replied to your so
called ’male superiority and demeaning women’ mentality which you found hard
too accept. You are not matured enough to handle other point of views and
give respect to the same.
If you want others to acknowledge what you say, show the same recognition
for others too.
(Local Perspectives)
Why is this comment made to me? I didn’t make the statements mentioned here..
I have stopped reacting to your views Rohan. So chill.
Don’t monpolize the thread. Let others have their say.
(Local Perspectives)
”Wayne very good and well written article..”
is this article an copy and paste ?
http://www.thp.org/where_we_work/south_asia/india/research_reports/chronic_hunger_and_status_of_women
is this article an copy and paste ?
http://www.thp.org/where_we_work/south_asia/india/research_reports/chronic_hunger_and_status_of_women
(Global Perspectives)
Fisher,
thats what you see from a far off country....the real truth is always double sided. Because you are not shown the other side, you do not come to know. Know the other side too. www.mynation.net, www.savefamily.org, www.498a.org, www.saveindianfamily.org
thats what you see from a far off country....the real truth is always double sided. Because you are not shown the other side, you do not come to know. Know the other side too. www.mynation.net, www.savefamily.org, www.498a.org, www.saveindianfamily.org
(Local Perspectives)
My your doing all the work for me ,keep it up
A grade one student could do better than this
Come on roll out more hate
There is noting better than give a human a feeling of purpose
A grade one student could do better than this
Come on roll out more hate
There is noting better than give a human a feeling of purpose
(Global Perspectives)
wonda,
The pointing out of fraud and double standards of feminism does not amount to any hatred of women. It just means that I am not afraid of speaking the truth! Get that right! Just because you want to desperately please women, you keep twisting the facts to divert the attention because there is no other way you can defend the fraud.
The pointing out of fraud and double standards of feminism does not amount to any hatred of women. It just means that I am not afraid of speaking the truth! Get that right! Just because you want to desperately please women, you keep twisting the facts to divert the attention because there is no other way you can defend the fraud.
(Local Perspectives)
What i try to said Rohan D, is that the person who post this article is not the original author, and i think is unfair for the author of this piece ,as well as unethical, that he post it as an original work.
(Global Perspectives)
A man who is desperate to please the women-folk can do anything - even bash up other men to get his basic needs met! This is nothing new. Its as old as the cave man.
(Local Perspectives)
What he is trying to say is your one of his victims of his hate campaign which- i set him up
He has no causes but the inherent thought of vengeance and proves my point here that hate is our superior emotion
He has no causes but the inherent thought of vengeance and proves my point here that hate is our superior emotion
(Global Perspectives)
The cause is obvious and well stated in all my replies and articles. The feminist movement is plain misandry, one-sided, blames men for the ills of the world, claims the superiority of the estrogen over the testosterone, double standard and suppresses the male perspective. This is untenable and any pointer to these is always termed as ’hatred’ ’vengeance’ and so on. It is a diversory tactic meant to avoid the indefensible.
(Local Perspectives)
Haa bullshit, the condition of both men and women is pathetic in India. Then why only women get preferential treatment?
Are men any less than women for their problems not to be addressed?
Just because people do not have the guts to write truth, they keep writing politically correct things just to stay in the crowd.
The media is filled with sob stories of women, what’s the big deal in writing about that?
Some facts about men :-
http://wemen.us/articles/views/25-domestic-violence-claims-156000-husbands.html
http://wemen.us/articles/views/26-indian-men-an-epitome-of-sacrifices.html
Merely shouting does not make a truth, there need to be statistics as well.
Are men any less than women for their problems not to be addressed?
Just because people do not have the guts to write truth, they keep writing politically correct things just to stay in the crowd.
The media is filled with sob stories of women, what’s the big deal in writing about that?
Some facts about men :-
http://wemen.us/articles/views/25-domestic-violence-claims-156000-husbands.html
http://wemen.us/articles/views/26-indian-men-an-epitome-of-sacrifices.html
Merely shouting does not make a truth, there need to be statistics as well.
(Local Perspectives)
Are men any less than women for their problems not to be addressed?
What happened to all the protecting and providing that you claim men do? If they can protect and provide for women then they can protect and provide for themselves and don’t need any special treatment.
What happened to all the protecting and providing that you claim men do? If they can protect and provide for women then they can protect and provide for themselves and don’t need any special treatment.
(Global Perspectives)
Exactly but women alone get all the attention and sympathy. Men also give sympathy to women because of their weakness for women. MEN ARE THE WEAKER SEX BECAUSE OF THEIR WEAKNESS FOR THE WEAKER SEX!
(Local Perspectives)
Indian governement is all up to help urban women. Govt makes 50% reservation in METRO rail, extra compartment for women, tax excemption for IT women, rules, strict steps for safety of corporate women inside office,extra protection for NRI wives. But the hardworking rural women(of course people) are still in the darkness.
Indian govt. must stop pampering the urban women and try to help the rural women.
Indian govt. must stop pampering the urban women and try to help the rural women.
(Local Perspectives)
I can sympathize with your insecurity. But gone are the days when women used to provoke men with these sentences and later used to castrate them because men are back,
http://wemen.us/articles/an-article-a-day/512-men-are-back-.html
http://wemen.us/articles/an-article-a-day/512-men-are-back-.html
(Local Perspectives)
Your statement of truth is not a complete truth. It is a half-truth restricted to rural areas. Urban women and feminists put up gory pictures of these women and make money out of them. While these women continue with their misery, the urban women and feminazis mint money. Same time, the rural men are also in pathetic condition which is not exposed by feminist supporters like you. Can you focus on the pathetic condition of rural men too?